How do you reverse a natural protocol



Local council, 64th meeting on March 13, 2015, verbatim minutes - page 7 of 35


alien people. They're all desk criminals, so to speak! (Applause from the FPÖ.)


Or another point that is also included in your punctuation: professional focus on acute care at night. That is definitely not possible as long as all departments are open day and night and every patient naturally has to be examined by a specialist. How are you going to do that? That doesn't work again! But as everyone, I believe, can see, there is one problem after another in Vienna and you are of course intensifying this with your statements to cut 382 medical positions in Vienna. But there is one thing I would like to say to you about doctors: First of all, you have to thank the doctors, nurses, and nurses for sacrificing themselves so much, even though they are working to the limit every day! We should say thank you, ladies and gentlemen! (Applause from the FPÖ.)


Secondly, I would like to add one thing, because you always say that there are enough doctors available. Do you even know how many doctors, surgeons or anesthetists in Vienna often come to operations in their free time, where they are not allowed to come, who are not even paid and still do operations? There is no need to smile, Ms. City Councilor, those are the facts! Maybe you don't know, I'll tell you: They come and don't get paid for that anymore because they are no longer allowed to work overtime. They come anyway because they feel sorry for the patients, ladies and gentlemen! That is a sense of responsibility! But what you are doing, Ms. City Councilor, is all just non-responsible health policy for Vienna. That's exactly the point.


I can only say one thing to you, ladies and gentlemen: here and today we are first of all calling for this motion of censure to be approved. And secondly, Ms. City Councilor: You have had time for years to steer everything into a positive direction. You didn't do it. That is why we are calling for your resignation as City Councilor for Health today and here! (Applause from the FPÖ)


And of course I ask that you sit down at the negotiating table in the future or as soon as possible, not in the future, and not, like yesterday at night, to invite you to a coffee party where there is not even a negotiation. So that was a meeting and you don't know exactly what was being discussed there (GR Kurt Wagner: Nothing was discussed that night!). You had a meeting at 9 p.m., and not even the President came (Excitement at GR Kurt Wagner.)where I agree with 100 percent that he doesn't go there because you don't want to negotiate, you only want to talk about it at most! This is your problem! (Applause from the FPÖ. - Further excitement from GR Kurt Wagner.)


In conclusion, I can only say one thing: come back to the negotiating table! Renegotiate, Madam City Councilor, in the interests of the doctors, patients, nurses and carers! I can only give you that on your way. I hope you won't listen to your managers. I think that's where you got on the worst with people so far. (Applause from the FPÖ.)


Chairman GR Godwin Cobbler: The next person to speak is Ms. GRin Korosec, and I give her the floor.



† GRin Ingrid Korosec (ÖVP club of the federal capital Vienna)|: Mr. Chairman! Ladies and gentlemen! City Councilor! Ladies and gentlemen on the gallery!


I am not an opposition politician who reflexively says no when the government makes proposals. And, Ms. City Councilor, you know very well that I can differentiate very clearly. Especially in the area of ​​further development in the health sector, there are many areas where we theoretically agree and where you also have our support. However, and here I come to the problems, it is always about implementation. In theory, there are areas where two committed health politicians agree. I mean, Ms. City Councilor, you are a committed health politician, and that's what I say about myself. I disagree with my colleague Gudenus, because I am of the opinion that the city councilor is a committed health politician. But we still agree that in the end, she cannot implement it. In theory a positive attitude, in the implementation very, very bad. (Applause from the ÖVP.)


If you say that Vienna is a well-managed city in the health sector, then this myth is finally invalid here and now. And my criticism is, and I do not want to go into the doctor problem in particular, I would like to shed light on the health sector as a whole: How economically, how efficiently, how economically and how transparent is the KAV, is worked in the AKH, and of course always in the interests of the patients? Of course you can work sparingly if this is to the detriment of the patient. No, that's just not what it should be. In the interests of the patients, you can of course also work economically, economically and efficiently. And I'll come up with some examples.


On the subject of profitability. This is a very important component, because it also affects our future generation. It is also a question of whether our children, our grandchildren, have to repay the debts that are now being accumulated. And about the development of the KAV: The KAV company was established in 2000 and began in 2002. Since then there have been operating subsidies, okay, that's clear. But these operating grants are used to cover the business departure. You have to imagine that. So it doesn't matter what kind of finish there is, it is covered. And if you look at it now, I looked at it from 2006 to 2014, the outflows, only the hospital outflows, not in the care sector, but only hospital outflows are EUR 4 billion. EUR 4 billion! The outflows are simply covered.



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