What is mileage and cc
Can you trust the mileage?
want to look at a VW CC tomorrow. First registration 11/2012. According to the VW dealer, only 3400 km have been run. The dealer (an official VW dealer) says that the car is registered with VW AG and that it is an employee vehicle that has not been used much. So in almost two years only 3400 km.
An experienced driving instructor said that dealers also tend to set the mileage back. My question now is whether it is so easy to do? Allegedly this should be very easy to do via the diagnostic interface. On the other hand, manipulation can also be read out electronically via the diagnostic interface if one has the appropriate device. But the connector-coupling interface, which is somehow accessible, would also look different after a manipulation attempt. Any security threads would then be severed.
Does anyone have experience with this matter? And how honest are VW dealers? Are such attempts at fraud not even prosecuted?
Would be very grateful for any information. If all of this is not eaten as hot as it is cooked, I could save myself embarrassing questions from the dealer tomorrow. Doesn't want to spoil anyone's mood; but I also don't like being ripped off.
If the vehicle is sold through an official VW dealer then you can believe that if VW should notice that the faked then they get the VW sign off the roof in a flash and no VW dealer wants that ....
Such cars are usually very interesting and well-equipped, I have one too and I am still so happy that the car is like new.
You can just write down the chassis number, go to another VW dealer and have the history shown to you. Then hate security.
He can also simply look directly at the dealer from whom he wants to buy. If he stands across, I would turn around and leave.
VAG AG vehicles of the company's own fleet run little during this time because they have tons of them. And if it comes directly from the contract partner and was approved as the previous owner of VAG AG, you can also ask there what was going on there before the handover.
I also think that in this case the mileage corresponds to reality. In the case of a vehicle from first owner, then also VW AG as the first owner, every dealer should really be stupid .....
Your driving instructor is not wrong, but reduced mileage is more likely to be found with higher mileage or vehicles aged 6-10 years.
This is how I remember a Variant EZ 2006 ex. Taxi that only had 200,000km on the clock, but the taxi operator had retired him with over 400,000km .....
From this source I think the km reading is credible. In the case of Kiesplatz-Ali, however, skepticism would be appropriate ...
However, you will never know whether the car was driven really carefully by a caring employee or perhaps loaned to a supplier for material-killing tests.
As a supplier, we also have factory cars here, which do not drive much either, but are partially rebuilt and dismantled again before delivery. And nobody treats them carefully ...
Just look at the condition. Care and wear condition (pedal rubbers, seats, tires, ...) should match.
Originally written by Käfer1500
However, you will never know whether the car was driven really carefully by a caring employee or perhaps loaned to a supplier for material-murderous tests.
In my opinion, however, I would tend to prefer the "material-killing tests". Almost no one treats vehicles with care and attention if they are not personally and permanently assigned to them. It starts with the fact that nobody feels responsible to check the oil level, and it ends when things are in a hurry and one is simply not responsible for warming up the engine gently, because "the cart" is anyway is sold after a finite time. But cars can withstand more than you think, otherwise government vehicles (Pozilei or similar) would fall apart immediately after the sale - which they don't. In this respect, it's true: assess the overall condition, test drive extensively and then judge according to your own conscience. Both luck and bad luck can be found anywhere.
If the odometer reading has been tampered with, this cannot be seen optically. Neither on the diagnostic socket, nor anywhere else. All you have to do is plug in a nasty little box and type in the new odometer reading.
Viewing the repair history can be done using the VIN in every authorized workshop.
Read out mileage from engine control unit. Works with almost all engines and requires VCDS or a knowledgeable VW WS.
Thank you very much for your detailed answers. I actually implemented Sash83's suggestion. It turned out that the vehicle history is not suspect. It is a demonstration car that was still driven by a VW man after a year. But just a little and hopefully decent. In any case, the test drive was inconspicuous.
Test drive is a joke anyway. I actually wanted to try out all the functions thoroughly. But it was a Saturday and customers were queuing at the dealership; they all wanted to speak to a dealer. Buyers everywhere. Not a good day to trade. I was only allowed a test drive because I had reserved it. What should you try out there? Well: slow driving properties. How does a DSG gearbox behave compared to an automatic converter? Result: good. Extreme acceleration: also good. I was only allowed half an hour. Not enough to try out the high-speed behavior on the autobahn. I was also able to test ACC to a standstill on country roads and villages. Likewise the parking assistant. Everything great. I was unable to test the lane departure warning system because, despite hastily reading the operating instructions, I could not find out how to activate it. Then I drove back. As soon as I was back, the sales person came around the corner. I asked for a little more time for the electronics. Bluetooth connection, radio, navigation system, heating, air conditioning, seat adjustment and keyless entry tested. A look inside the engine. That’s it. I've bought and now I'm waiting impatiently until I can pick up the car. I am so happy!
Congratulations! With the KM status and the age you still have a factory guarantee and warranty. Make sure you drive a lot until November so that you can make any defects apply, then you still have the warranty until mid-March!
Originally written by immerduun
... test drive is a joke anyway. I actually wanted to try out all the functions thoroughly. But it was a Saturday and customers were queuing up at the dealership; they all wanted to speak to a dealer. Buyers everywhere. Not a good day to trade. A test drive was just me concededbecause I reserved it. What should you try out there? ... I still have a little time for the electronics asked. ... that's it. I've bought and now I'm waiting impatiently until I can pick up the car. I am so happy!
You see, it is precisely because of such experiences that I now avoid all VW glass palaces around here. Didn't you also ask yourself WHO the customer is? You will be treated by well-dressed, technically unsuspecting young arrogant snobbugs like a supplicant who is supposed to buy their goods for (too) much money without being tested. Are you crazy?
I was halfway satisfied in a small VW dealership here, but only really satisfied at my Czech Skoda dealer.
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