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Questions about online distributors CDBaby / Tunecore / Distrokid / Feiyr

  • Hey together

    I would be interested in which of the mentioned online labels or online distributors you have had what kind of experience / s?

    I find CDBaby, Tunecore and Distrokid the most interesting.
    CDBaby & Tunecore not only offer music distribution, but also music publishing, keyword “sync licensing”.
    Distrokid doesn't have the music publisher, but it's cheaper overall (with more than 2 singles per year) and you don't have to accept any contracts, as is probably the case with the other two mentioned.

    CDBaby
    -9.95 $ per single and 9% of the profit, including music publisher ("Sync licensing")
    -Will I also get paid for sales from YouTube clicks generated by external YT users or music channels at no extra charge?

    Tunecore
    -9.99 € per single per year (is a subscription).
    -Musikverlag ("Sync licensing") one-time per artist 69 $ extra
    -9 $ extra per single, if the sales generated by external YT users are to be paid out
    -Each music store per single $ 2 extra, or $ 10 per single for all music stores

    Distrokid
    - One-time release of unlimited singles and / or albums for one year for $ 19.99
    -Contra: Currently no music publisher ("Sync licensing") possible. What happens to sales from YouTube clicks?

    Feiyr
    - Setup fee for the account € 9.90
    -2.36 € per music store per single and keeps an additional 20% of sales
    -Contra: Currently no music publisher ("Sync licensing") possible.

    Question 1:
    Is a YouTube claim possible for everyone? How does it work? Does CDBaby, Distrokid or Tunecore basically claim everyone first and the user who uploaded it can then decide whether I or the distributor continue to collect the money for the clicks or whether the user deletes his video with my music?

    Question 2:
    If I understand correctly, Distrokid can claim users from YT, but Distrokid won't pay me the money if someone else monetizes my track, not even for a surcharge?

    Question 3:
    Has anyone ever dealt with the contracts of CDBaby and Tunecore in more detail, whether you really don't give up any rights to your own material or the like and there are actually no problems if you also offer your single for free at the same time?

    Question 4:
    With CDBaby and Tunecore, is it worthwhile using the music publisher (“Sync licensing”)? Is there any real added value compared to Distrokid who doesn't offer this?

    Question 4b:
    If so, is CDBaby or Tunecore's music publishing service better? The one from Tunecore costs the artist an extra one-time fee of 69 $ (if you want to use this) and is then valid forever.
    With CDBaby this is already included in the single price. The question is whether there is a difference in quality as a result? Perhaps someone has already tested both of them, or learned something from artist friends?

    Question 5:
    To Tunecore. Is it possible to cancel the subscription to a single at any time without any problems?
    And can you submit a cancellation of the subscription at a fixed date immediately after a single has been offered for sale, so that the single is for sale for a maximum of 1 year, for example?

    Question 6:
    To Feiyr. Feiyr is apparently the only known German distributor, but you can find mostly negative opinions on the net. Can you say something about Feiyr?

    Question7:
    What and how often does CDBaby, Tunecore and Distrokid pay out?

    Question 7b:
    Do you need a business for this?

    Question8:
    Assuming you are on CDBaby or Tunecore and a major label reports (even if it is unlikely), could you then sign with them without further ado and the singles that have already been released should then also be distributed via the major label?

  • So I think of such mass portals where you have to pay money =?!?!? that you give them your music ?! ... not much..

    look for a label that fits your genre and send them your music / demos etc ... if the music is good, they'll take it .. if not then you would have a hard time on mass portals too ..

    if you are a label owner yourself .. then the whole thing can look different again to bring the music of your label to the people ...

    the only place where I could possibly make sense for someone who markets himself then possibly band camp .. although I did not know how it works .. because I do not market myself

    to your questions ... i think the best place to go to get such questions answered are the portals themselves?! ask at the source

  • https://www.recordjet.com/

    there are also some very successful German rappers

  • Senior FL Studio Member

    So as far as I understand (and the only logical possibility, because otherwise nobody would use these services) the respective side is just a "middleman" between you and the sales platforms. You "give" your music to them by uploading it so that it can be distributed on the platforms, but you still retain the copyright to the respective song. In any case, unless otherwise contractually agreed; A look at the terms and conditions will help.

    Here are two videos that I came across during a short search, they may help:


    As I said, I only dealt with it briefly, but I can't imagine that the service providers have other rights to your music apart from the 9% share (or something like that). Accordingly, YouTube revenue should not be affected, at least not if you get it through your own channel.
    But as I said: be careful, these are only assumptions that I draw from similar circumstances during my studies. If (and that is almost certain) non-German law forms the basis, everything can be completely different.

    What I didn't realize was that if you sell a song there, it will be made available on all platforms. But does it stay like that "forever" or do you have to pay at regular intervals so that the song is still available?

  • It depends on the provider. For example, some have an annual subscription per single. Usually around 9 €, or between 9-15 € per single without a subscription.
    I have not yet looked at how long the notice period for a single is with this subscription, it must have a disadvantage if it is a whole lot cheaper, it is not called a subscription for nothing.

    If you no longer pay for the subscription, the track will also disappear from the stores.

    I am mainly concerned with 2 things. That a provider bundles takes care that the tracks get into all common stores and above all that they get into the YouTube ID content system. Because then you can have videos blocked and / or receive the money for the clicks if strangers use your own music in their videos.

    Anyone know if there are special providers who ONLY take care of the YouTube Content ID system? Recordyet.com looks great, but doesn't seem to offer that ?! I once sent them an email. That would be a top provider for it.

    About the labels .. I haven't even dealt with labels yet .. are smaller labels still better than such a provider? If so, why and how do you find one?

  • I don't know what to say about the Conten ID thing, what do you mean by that? The Content ID is there for you to earn money when other Youtubers play your song in their videos. How should a sales organization ONLY take care of it? That doesn't work at all. You first have to release something in order to earn something with the Content ID, for this you also need the other services of a sales department. I also think you need a YouTube channel for a content ID and I'm not sure but I vaguely remember that even the song has to be on your channel so I don't think that you can just release something independently of YouTube and then you can earn money through Youtube even though you have nothing to do with them yourself.

    In any case:

    a decent digital distributor should give you 100% of the revenue and only charge a monthly / annual fee and maybe a single fee per release.

    And on the subject of labels: hands off. As long as it's not one of the big, blatant labels, it makes absolutely no sense to sign anywhere. Why? Because they'll take a big fat share of the change you earn and you end up with a few crumbs in your pocket. The same services that a label offers you can get independent 10000x cheaper and earn more (everything)

  • That was exactly the question, HOW exactly does it work with the Youtube Content-ID-System? Because I don't know.

    So it is mandatory to have your own channel in which the same song is available as the one that is then distributed by the distributor? In this case, the distributor is the YouTube partner who has the option of using the content ID system.
    Feiyr, for example, says you MUST join their YouTube network to get the income and you can only get out of them after 3 years according to the terms and conditions, unless otherwise agreed. Something like that, for example, would be an absolute nogo.

    Has anyone ever done that with the Content ID system and can explain it in detail? And does anyone know whether CDBaby and / or Tunecore have contract terms regarding the topic of joining a network on Youtube, in order to be able to protect their singles on YT?

    http://www.uniqueopia.com is from DE and seems to let you out at any time as far as YT is concerned, I will also find out more about it there.

  • Except for Feiyer (from whom I haven't bought anything), the others named have not yet been able to draw my attention - I've never heard of them ...

  • So ... in order to get your tracks into the YT Content-ID-System you don't have to go to a network and you don't have to have your own YT channel, I found out about it.

  • doesn’t want to drive any faint-hearted people back to the cart, but these questions are for 99.5% here, including you and me, completely irrelevant for at least a few more years ^^

  • Senior FL Studio Member

    Well, what if you just want to sell your songs? A lot of people won't care if they get rich or famous with it.
    I can understand that you want to publish something that you have worked on for a relatively long time. Everyone can decide for themselves whether for money or for free.

    How else can you do that if not like that?

    I would probably do it in such a way that I make it available for free, but also offer it for sale somewhere so that people who want to support me can use it to do so.
    In such a situation there is hardly anything else than these online distributors, right?

  • I don't think Alrie.

    Onauc, that's how I see it too. Everyone as he likes.


  • Well, what if you just want to sell your songs? A lot of people won't care if they get rich or famous with it.
    I can understand that you want to publish something that you have worked on for a relatively long time. Everyone can decide for themselves whether for money or for free.

    How else can you do that if not like that?

    I would probably do it in such a way that I make it available for free, but also offer it for sale somewhere so that people who want to support me can use it to do so.
    In such a situation there is hardly anything other than these online distributors, right?

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    the distribution is totally unnecessary because the buyers then become aware of the song via your social media etc. if they want to support you. and if you just clap a bandcamp link everywhere, then everyone will do that about it

  • Does Bandcamp also offer to get your music into YT's content ID system? If not, I find Bandcamp uninteresting for that reason alone. And apart from that, a distribution seems much more professional to me if you can post your iTunes, Amazon mp3 whatever link under e.g. the YT video.


  • Does Bandcamp also offer to get your music into YT's content ID system? If not, I find Bandcamp uninteresting for that reason alone. And apart from that, a distribution seems much more professional to me if you can post your iTunes, Amazon mp3 whatever link under e.g. the YT video.

    well, the message from earlier should mean translated: Nobody will re-upload our music, so an integration into the content-ID-system doesn’t bring anything

  • Senior FL Studio Member